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1978 - Interview by Bob Lardine



Olivia habla sobre su próximo especial de televisión, que busca incorporar la narrativa en sus actuaciones, convirtiéndolas en algo más que simples canciones y sketches. 
Expresa su admiración por Kenny Rogers y el reto de seguir su actuación. 

Olivia reflexiona sobre su papel en "Grease", expresando su intuición sobre el guion y sus ideas sobre la actuación y los personajes. 
Menciona sus viajes a Europa para conciertos y el impacto de la caza de delfines en sus planes de gira, destacando su preocupación por los derechos de los animales. 

Olivia habla sobre su trayectoria musical, la importancia de consultar con su productor y la naturaleza colaborativa de su trabajo. 
Aborda sus reflexiones sobre convertirse en ciudadana estadounidense y las complejidades de su identidad. 

Olivia habla sobre su enfoque hacia la crítica y la importancia de los comentarios constructivos frente a los negativos. Comparte sus experiencias personales de infancia y sus antecedentes familiares, lo que influye en su perspectiva sobre el éxito y la felicidad. 

Olivia enfatiza la separación entre los sentimientos personales y la percepción pública en su carrera.

 Por último, reflexiona sobre su enfoque hacia futuros papeles como actriz y expresa su interés en seguir actuando mientras mantiene su carrera musical.


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The Hotel Riviera in Las Vegas.

It was out in the sun for half a minute. It washed you out.

Yeah. I was down there too. You see, I got a couple of stories that you did did you read that one in in us?

I'm telling you that one.

Was that, accurate?

I'll have to read it again to tell you.

It was in August, If if you read the whole thing, we'll take No.

I'll glance over it. I don't I don't think I was upset with it, so it can't have been that bad.

I think you can't let go. I just wanted to check if that's all right in there. There's no use asking anything about those things. If you have anything that bothered you about it, I'd like to.

I don't think anything bothered me now.

Uh-huh. Okay.

I think so.

That's a plus act to follow last night. Like, Kenny Rogers, he said, you have a lot of courage to go on after him. I thought that was a I think a lot of entertainers would worry about following Kenny.

I haven't actually seen him. I haven't seen a show because I'm always getting ready at the same time, but the idea was to get someone as as good as you can because

that's He's good. He's good. Let's talk about, what your TV is special. Mhmm. That's upcoming and may use it.

Instant time.

And then when do you do it?

As soon as I finish here.

That's pretty quick to do that. And then they air it?

They air it probably about six days after I finish. Uh-huh. I think.

Who who are the guests?

Abba and Andy Gibb.
Okay. And and what network is that?

I see.

There you go. Uh-huh. Well, let's talk about, are you gonna do anything different on it? I'm just expecting

anything about it. We're hoping the special itself will be different because it's I don't wanna do just, you know, and now here's a song and here's a sketch, so we're trying to create a storyline throughout the show, which I don't wanna tell you about. Otherwise, it won't be any surprise. But, and to incorporate the guests in the show rather than just saying, and now he's Abra and now he's in. They're gonna be in the show all the way through with me.

So it's a different idea.

And then, of course, you have Grease. Mhmm. And why did you choose Grease as your first time?

I just had a, I hope, correct instinct about it when I got the script. I'd seen I'd seen the show in England, about four years ago. Yeah, it was just opened, and remembered it. So when the script came, I remember the show and that it was a lot of fun and the music was fun and the era appealed to me. And then I read the script, and in the script, Sandy is a very young, naive type girl, but at the end, she gets changed and becomes a little different.

So that was interesting too because there were two parts in the one role. Mhmm. And John Travolta, I thought he was fantastic. I'd seen him in a boiler plastic bubble. And knew he was gonna be a superstar in film, and I was right there.

Let's have a run about the rest of it.

When you make a decision about this or or a number you're gonna sing, who who do you consult with? Is it an individual decision, or or do you consult with a number of people?

Yeah. I talk to my producer, generally, when we're recording, is who I talk to about which songs we discuss everything in, decide between us which songs we're gonna record. And when I'm putting an act together, I talk to him, I talk to Lee, I talk to, that's and my band sometimes. Is

it is it the same producer?

Yeah. I've had the same one for seven years. Seven years. John Farrah. Okay.

Are

are you after you do the TV stuff, then what happens? What what what what what's your upcoming schedule?

After that, I'm going to to go to Europe for the first time. Oh, for the first time in a long time to do concerts and promotion, which I haven't done. Last time I was there was about four or five years ago, and I was an opening act for somebody.

So Mostly for Greece?

No. Just for me in records.

Oh, alright.

Greece will follow at the end of the year. And then in November, I'm going to Australia, and that will be for the opening of Greece and also do some concerts. And Japan, if the government, stopped the killing of the dolphins, I will go. But at the moment, I've canceled my tour, so it really depends on the reaction to that.

You're very concerned about,

dolphin Yeah.

And the animals? Or are you worried about the neutron bomb and things like that or just

Neutron yeah. Well, I think that yeah. But, that the animals is more closer to my heart. I mean, I haven't really I can get involved in any get involved in many things, but the animals are very special to me. Animals and music, I wouldn't know what would come first, but pretty close.

What about the baby seals?

Yeah. I it's pretty it's bad news as well. You know?

What do you do? Do you joined anything? Or

Not with the I mean, since I, cancelled my shows because the dolphin thing in Japan, I've had a lot of literature from lots of different organizations now because I've shown some interest. So I probably will get involved in other things. But up till then, I sort of had strong personal feelings, but I hadn't got involved in any particular organization, but I'd like to.

You're an Australian citizen.

I'm an, actually, it's very confusing. I'm an English, born American resident, but I have Australian domicile because my family live there. So I've sort of got You're an English citizen. I have three three times. It's nice.

Did did you ever consider, becoming an American citizen?

Well, I had to live here for five years or so before, so I've got a couple of years to to ponder on it. But Australian England might get a bit mad at me for a few minutes, so I don't know if I will. Yeah. I'll take it. No.

It's a consideration. It's been a good country to me. But, with my accent, I don't know if I'd get away with it.

I talked about your accent. Have you tried to do anything about your accent, or does it bother you? Or No.

It doesn't bother me. It's not if it bugs anyone else.

Well, I noticed in Greece, they changed the story line. And in future films, I guess that also would be a consideration.

Well, it depends. I can lose it if I have to. And if I had to be an American or English, I could lose it con you know, consciously, I could.

In other words, I didn't have to change the story in my English.

Didn't have to. We just decided it would be, it made sense because it would make the, the girl more foreign, which is what I was playing anyway, an outsider. And, so I wouldn't have to I could have been American, but for my first film, it made more sense just to be who I was.

I've always wondered how foreign born singers is singing.

With American accent.

Yeah. You're nothing you're nothing notice that. So when they start speaking.

It's, I don't know. It's like an international language. I mean, you can find people who can hardly speak English. Like, Abba, for instance, sing in English, and their accents are hardly noticeable. And they're Swedish.

So I don't know. It's just a way of singing. There are certain vowels that sound better rounded off, which is more the American way. The Beatles are probably the only ones that have ever kept their Liverpool sound when they sing.

Yeah. But you never know where you're excited to work. No. Are are you studying in acting? Or No.

Are you interested in it?

I've, when I was starting to do Grease, I only had a short time to get prepared for it. And I talked to the director and Alan Carst, the producer, and John Travolta, and, you know, said, do you think I should do any training for it? And they said, no. In this instance, I thought I had it was natural it was coming out naturally the way they wanted the character to be. So if you go and study for it, I might lose that.

For a future project, if it was a demanding role, I would, yes, if it was something that I felt I needed help with. I think it's important, but, for that for Greece, I didn't know.

What about future films, though?

There's a lot I've there are a few things, in the offing, things that people are starting to get developed and stuff for me, but not nothing that I've decided to do.

Nine musicals?

Some of them have been. I've had a few offers that weren't musicals, but I'd like to do another musical.

You guys would feel more comfortable.

That one thing and two because I personally, when I go to the pictures, I like to be entertained. I think there's been a, until maybe this year, there's been a lapse in entertaining films. It's all been heavy and drama and murder and things, and, when I made, when I made Greece, I realized that these are the kind of films that just go and have a good time and enjoy them and be nice to do a film like that.

You wouldn't become involved in a film of violence

or sex? Violence, no. See, I don't know. I don't think so. But violence, no.

Well, there's been an awful lot of sex

in the

films of violence like that.

Except, I mean, Turning Point, which I thought was a fantastic movie. It was enjoyable. It was funny, and there was none of that in it either. Julia was a great movie that didn't have any violence, but didn't have any sex in it. Goodbye Girl was a great movie.

Annie Hall, they were all great films that didn't have either of those elements. So

They can't make any Yeah.

You can. Sure you can. Mhmm.

Are you a very religious person? I and all these stories are asking about religion or No. Were you brought up religious?

Reasonably. My father was an elder of the church, Presbyterian church, and, I lived in university college because he was a professor there, so I went to church regularly. I went to a church school, a church of England school where we had, church every morning.

Mhmm. But

when I reached about 14, they couldn't answer my questions anymore, so I sort of, didn't denounce it, but I didn't continue to go to church any longer. I now have I have an open mind to any religion. I'm not against it. I'm not but I'm not particularly involved in anyone. I believe there's something.

I believe there's something. I think that's fair.

All around.

Whether it's internal or external, I don't know. But, I believe everyone has their own visions of what there is. Good. I I haven't really decided what I believe in yet, but I'm I find every culture has something valid to offer, I suppose religion can.

Did Travolta try to convert him to his?

No. He never tried to convert me. He he told me about it only because I asked. He's not some person who'll talk about it without being asked first. Oh.

And it seems to have helped him a lot, and he's benefited from it a lot. So anything that helps somebody can't be bad. Mhmm.

But you haven't investigated that. No. In in this story that I pointed out, does does criticism bother you when you read something like that?

It depends if it's constructive or not. If it's just, for the sake of criticizing or if it's a personal dislike or something. Yeah. Everyone gets upset with criticism, but sometimes someone has a valid point and you take note.

What about this where if white bread could sing, it would sound like Olivia?

Well, yeah. Well, it's been said before, that kind of remark.

Yeah. So he he credits in other media.

I think I just don't think they could have listened very hard, because it's not, it's sort of insinuating that it's all, bland. I don't really think it has all been bland. But, you know, white bread appeals to a lot of people. The majority of America eats fresh white bread, you know. You know.

So it's not really a bad knock. But,

I'm not sure

It's not really my music, I don't think is I don't know if you would think so from watching the show, but I don't think it's bland music. No. So it's basically take it seriously.

I'm not certain where you're going in your in your multi careers. And, and, could you talk about goals? For instance, on this film and acting, are you serious about becoming a an actress, a serious dramatic actress? Or is this you're gonna just fit it in once in a

while? No. I really I loved it.

You loved doing it.

I loved doing it. I think I had more fun in the three months I made that than I had for a long time because it was a new experience. Obviously anything new Mhmm. Is exciting anyway because it's new and had a good time doing it. But, I had it's not something I'd really thought about before then, but I had a lot of encouragement during the film from everyone around me and since then from people who have said I should be doing that.

And that sort of made me curious to want to try. So it really depends on on the part. It's not something I'm I'm not gonna give up everything else for it, but it's part of my career I'd like to develop for if I have the ability, and that really depends on what other people think I can do.

You try to fit them all in in concerts, you're telling me the special.

Uh-huh. I'm

I'm in the mood.

I think next year, I'm gonna be doing less live

appearances. Right.

I wanna spend more time at home.

Really? Yeah. Doing what?

Just being normal person.

That's right.

With my animals and foal about six weeks ago, and I wanna watch it grow up. My I'd like to have a farm one day. That's what I like to do. So

You're not looking forward to your

time. No. Not yet. But, I mean, I say this every year. I've been saying this every year for four years, and I'm gonna cut down on every year.

I do just as much. So

How important is the big money figure?

Well, without sounding I don't know. Phastis is the right word. I don't really need to work for the money anymore. That's really not my motive. It really I don't I suppose initially, it's no.

I don't think when you're trying to become success, you're really thinking of becoming rich. You're thinking of just being successful and doing well in what you do and and being accepted and everything. But that's not the motive. If I was offered a film that was virtually nothing, if it was a great script and a great director, it wouldn't I would not do it for that reason. Mhmm.

But in those big cars, you you're a close horse, you kept diamonds.

I mean, I I have nice house.

Your lifestyle would change.

Well, obviously, it has it changes. Anyone who becomes more successful can afford to do things they couldn't do before. I have a nice house. I have a lot of animals. They in fact, if you spoke to my accountant, my biggest expense is my animals, their upkeep Yes.

Of anything. Yeah. What kind

of car do you buy?

I have a Mercedes and a Jeep and a Volkswagen. Volkswagen was the first car I bought when I came to this country. It was a little convertible car. Then when I got all the animals and I needed to to take them out and to bring the feed and stuff home, I got the jeep. And then I didn't feel safe in the Volkswagen anymore because I used to travel in a town so I got them safe.

So

Was your house in trouble, during this recent rain?

Not too bad, really. I I have a horse ring that was flooded most of the time, so I couldn't ride in there. But the house itself was fine. The roads around me were blocked off a lot. I had slides and Mhmm.

Malibu is pretty bad.

Do you have a lot of famous neighbors? Do you, are they your friends?

I don't really know many people around me. I mean, I know there are a lot of people that live in Malibu, but I don't really see them much.

Most of your friends are in.

No. They are, but they're not No. My closest friends, friends I've had for a long time, my producer and his wife, who he is Australian, and his wife used to be a singing partner of mine years ago. And they now live here and they're close friends. The girl who makes my clothes and designs them is an Australian who I've known since I first came here.

She's an Australian too, which happens to be a coincidence. Lee, some friends of his. It's about it really for I mean, I have a lot of but then my and my sister who's coming to live over here.

Is she in the business? Yes.

She's an actress, but she hasn't sort of been active in it for long time.

She's been active in the family?

No. She's had a baby, so she's had to be a mother.

So you you,

Oh, Helen Reddy and her husband are are good friends too.

Aren't they Malibu? No?

No. They're in Brentwood. Uh-huh. I suppose most of them are. Yes.

When I think about it, most of my friends are.

Oh. In

the business. Yeah. Because they're the people you meet most. Makes sense. If I was a plumber, they'd probably be plumbers.

You you don't drink?

Oh, I have I have. I mean, I don't

Right.

Drink drink heavily. I have

Do you smoke? No. You're a gamble?

No. You've

never tried anything else?

This time, I invested a dollar in a slot machine last night. That was it. I was in Tahoe last week. I didn't at all. Last time, I think I tried a few dollars, but I I I don't like gambling.

I hate wasting it. I'd rather have the money go and buy something with it than risk losing it. Because I spent too many years earning it to to gamble

with it. What were you born of, middle class parents or poor or?

How you'd call them, academic family.

Feel unpaid to you.

No. I don't think we're paid that well. But I I never really thought about what class. I think my father was so sort of, he is upper class whether he has money or not to me. So I don't know what you call it.

He's sort of aristocratic, isn't he?

See what happens at Paul.

Not Poor. I don't know. That I don't think, professors are paid very well anywhere in the world.

You were very happy with that?

I wouldn't say that. No. I my parents divorced when I was about 10, and I lived with my mother. And I think those years were very hard for me because like most kids, you want to be with both your parents. Okay.

And my sister and brother are a few years older than me, so they'd already left home. So it was just me and my mother. So I don't I wouldn't say it was very happy. No. But, no, I wouldn't say I was disastrously unhappy either.

Wait. Were you very pretty with me as a child?

My mother says I was, but she's biased.

And you you were a part of them? Sorry?

Yeah. It was oh, I don't know that. I was never fat. I suppose I was a little chubbier as a child than I am now.

You've never had a weight loss. No. You eat everything you want.

Mhmm. But I watch what I eat too. It's not like I'm I'm careful because of my health, what I eat.

But you could eat everything, and you wouldn't put on a pound. Mhmm. So how much do you eat?

Hundred and eight.

Hundred weight? You use a time to eat that.

Yeah. I do. Exercise is a good thing to eat. I have weights.

What are you, about five, five and a half?

Five, six. What

about your brother? Is he in the

business? My brother's a doctor.

Oh, yeah?

He's a specialist in infectious diseases. He deals in he works at a infectious disease hospital and deals with, I think he's specializing in bone disease. He's brilliant. So half the family are in show business and the other half are in academic.

Right. What about your father? Did you see him?

He was here he came over here for a diner show. He was a surprise guest. That was the last time he was there. She?

Was it? Three

months ago, I saw him. My mother has been here since Christmas time. And she's gone to Europe, but she's coming back for the Greece opening. She doesn't wanna miss that. And, my brother, I haven't seen for the longest, but he came here on a trip last year this morning.

You saw the rush was a bit. Mhmm. You're happy with it.

Yeah. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.

You haven't seen anything else about the rush. There's no rough cut.

I saw rough cut.

Oh, you did? Yeah.

How how

does that look?

It's good, I think.

You did? You liked yourself, though?

Well, I mean, I liked everybody else. I'm never a % happy. I mean, to watch yourself on the screen, especially now because it's like my first I made a movie a long time ago, but it was terrible. So this is like my first serious movie.

What did you play like, did you?

I played myself. I was part of a group. I had three boys and myself, and we were a musical group. And we got involved in a flying saucer and got taken up into space. It was like close encounters to music.

It was terrible.

It might be very good now.

No. I saw it. It could be a comedy. It could be a comedy now. The effects were good.

Yeah. But to watch myself on the screen, I mean, I'm I'm it's a new medium for me. So I can't really say I'm happy or unhappy because I don't know. I gotta wait till everyone else reacts to it.

This is a tough business. Mhmm.

Watch film.

Showed the whole show. Yeah.

It's good, though.

It is good. How how important is is luck in in in person's success?

It plays. I think it's all part of it. I think luck is an important part. Time is an important part. Then the material you choose and obviously the people that are around you are very important because if you can be a great artist and be with the wrong label or a bad producer, and it's not gonna happen for you.

So it's all gotta come together at once. And luck is part of that. But luck can't last forever. You've gotta have something to back that up after that because you can't keep you can't always be lucky. It's got you gotta have something behind that.

When you say timing, isn't that luck

there? Yeah. I suppose that's part of it.

How did luck play you on your part in your career? Were you lucky now?

Well, I think I have been. Yes. Very. In Australia when I just happened to go to for an audition for a talent show, and got into it, for me it all seemed to just form the place I don't really know how. A lot of people say luck has nothing to do with it.

You create your own. But I think I was lucky. I sort of got off of things in a very early age.

And this talent, the contest, that's what it was. What did you say? Do you know what you did?

Yeah. I sang, first heat because it was like heat then semifinal, final. It was Eliza Minnelli's song called, What Do You Think I Am. I don't know if you remember that book. It was from Michelle.

Then I did, saw about anyone who had a heart. And then on, when I went up for the final, I did Everything's Coming Up Roses. I remember it very well. I've been drifting. Still have the tape somewhere.

It's funny.

In that first big number story Yeah. You had made a number of records before that, haven't you?

What? Over here, you mean?

Yeah. Or no over there?

Well, I went from Australia to England Right. After a year in in television and had three or four years without a record. I mean, I made one but it was never released in the '71. I recorded If Not For You which was my first. And I said, that that was lucky in a way that I had the right producer and the right manager at the time because I didn't even like the song when I first did it.

So if they hadn't said to me, it's right for you and you sing it well, I never would have chosen it myself. So that's when those other things become important.

Does that happen often though, where you don't like the song and then someone persuades you?

Not since then. I wouldn't do anything I didn't like. But initially when I was first recording, I had to go with other people's they knew more than I did about the reasons my manager had at the time. Was very knowledgeable in music and what they thought I should do to to establish my own style which you have to do. Mhmm.

So I had to go with their opinion and they were right. So and then as I got more confidence, I got my own feelings about what I wanted to do.

People always send me the message. Mhmm. But can you listen to it?

Or Yeah. Most of it. I mean, I if I don't, my producer does.

Do you have any love to think about us or any of those? Yeah.

The main ones in you.

We do that.

The aren't you, especially. They didn't want a Louisa. I went in Farrock.

They didn't like it.

They liked it, but they didn't believe it because it was a ballad and it was slow. Well, I think it was following, where's mister Lewis, wasn't it?

It was the following thing. How did you look?

I did. Exactly. We got new country songs, and I went on a New Year's Eve. What's that fucking music thing I have

in New Year.

And I sang in that was Yeah. Which is supposed to be Melissa Moore. It was

That kind of thing.

That kind of thing.

But nobody in the business.

Not really. Oh, one. One. But that's not

every now and again.

No. That look like her. I can play the music image, but

not as a Yeah. That's totally missing. I don't know why, but when I saw you up there, suddenly I thought of Debbie Reynolds. Nobody has ever said you resenting her in any way. You know?

You don't look like it now now either. It was the hair. Can we bring it here that way?

Now it's so long. I have to someone said that in a review that my hair was like Debbie Reynolds, so maybe that's it, the fringe in

there. Two things. In Greece, did you how how do you wear your hair in there?

Like, some clip like that in a ponytail. Okay. Because that was the styling. That was like Debbie Reynolds. There.

I can see it there.

I'm not gonna ask you about you and your role in the lesson. But I I I just wanna ask you about how do you feel about, an older woman

I think that's

his I

think that's his affair.

No. He wasn't. But I I was just wondering what you think about it in general, not of any individual about where we're

I thought I think I think age is immaterial. I think if people care about each other, they can be one can be 10 and one can be 50. I don't think it makes any difference. It's all to do with feelings and love. Nothing to do with age.

About 10 and 50?

No. I'm Yeah.

You know what I mean?

20 and 50. Alright. I was just trying to do a big gap, but I mean Right. I don't think it makes any difference. It's all down to feelings.

I know in the past that a woman with a younger man, I used to

Yeah. Well, I think you see it's all it's been wrong in that it's always been acceptable for an old an older man to be with a young girl, so why is next acceptable the other way around? I can't see one. It's just I mean, it doesn't make any difference.

Well, they always say a woman is older than a man, anyway.

Yeah. I'll go along with that.

If you were the same age, I was just told that a woman was always older.

No. No. I don't think that's necessarily true. Some guys never grow up and some are grown up at 18. I mean, there's no general rule for anybody.

In some way, girls never grow up either. I don't I think any of us ever grow up to say the truth. I really don't. In fact, that's what my special is about, the fact that we never really grow up.

Oh, really? Since your father was a

He's retired, but he does a lot of, he's got a program on BBC radio, a classical music program and stuff, and he does he still does lectures and stuff. And he's very active.

I was wondering how he felt when he dropped out of school. And he was such a

their main concern was that if I dropped out of school, would I have a career to go to if show business didn't work for me? And if I didn't have a degree, then what was I gonna fall back on? And I told them I was quite happy to be working a shop or something if I had to. That was, you know, what it was gonna be. But that was their main concern, that if I didn't finish school, I'd have no backing.

Yeah. Except

Yeah.

Initially. I had one more year to go in high school. Initially, their reaction was you should finish school and it's very important. Then I think they realized that, I wasn't concentrating on school anyway. I was just scrape I could have done very well, but I'd just swat the night before and just scrape through.

And I wasn't gonna get very far that way in college. And, you should do, I couldn't have done very well anyway, so. I think when they thought I had a future in the business then they're encouraging. Initially they were, you know, sort of saying I think you should do.

Well, we're being heard by your early, short business efforts? Was is that so encouraging?

My mother said from when I was three, she knew I'd be a singer. She told me that recently because I was always singing around the house and always playing piano and was a very musical child. Not really, just, you know, but I mean as a kid I was always playing with it and stuff. And, but she wanted me to my mother is an academic family too. She wanted me to finish school as well.

But as soon as she saw that I had talent, my sister was always very encouraging because she'd left school and she was saying, come on, you can do it and all that stuff. So she should have helped me get through the family. It was a big family feud, of course, for a few months while the holidays were going on. But my final decision was I went back to the school to see my favorite teacher, who was my history teacher, and asked him what he thought. And he said, if you come back to school next year and you're thinking about singing, you're not going to get through.

So if you want to go and sing, go do it, put yourself into that, but you'll never get through. And that was my final decision maker.

Do you think you're born in this town? That kind of thing?

Do people get born with it? Yeah. I think so.

How about acting?

I guess it's all part of it. I think singing is acting because it's interpreting a thought.

So if you're born with that singing talent, but necessarily probably do that.

Not necessarily. It has to be proved. But I think singing, part of singing, well, for me it is anyway, is acting. A love song or a ballad, it's all they're words and the words have meaning. Mhmm.

But, I don't it's not necessarily some.

It's not necessarily something you're born with with talent.

I think you're born with natural talent. Whether you develop it or not is another thing. Whether you're born with acting talent because you have singing talent, I don't know. Do you

acquire singing talent?

A certain degree, you can.

You can

look you can be taught I know people who have had the basics and gone and have been taught and have come out, you you know, much better. But I think you have to be born with a certain amount of to be any good, anyway.

Is it the voice? You have to be born with that voice? Is that it? The great voice or what?

I don't know. I don't really don't know. I think you just you're born with an ear, a musical ear. That's probably the most important thing, pitch. And hearing a melody and interpreting a melody and stuff like that.

You you write some stuff now?

Yeah. A little bit.

How how much songs have you got?

Three that are on albums, and I probably have three or four in the next album. So I'm starting to do more.

You you do the melody too? Right.

I write music and the words I put down on tape because I don't write out them, and then I give it to my producer who writes it down for me.

Has anyone ever sung any of your stuff? Not yet. Not yet?

Oh, one that I wrote with John. A girl covered it in Japan or Singapore or something on an album, but it was exciting because it was the first time.

You don't do what Paul Anken does Paul, thanks enough to say I've just written a song for you.

No. Because I'm not a songwriter as such. You know, I do it for me. If someone else would like to do it, that's terrific.

I I noticed Kenny Rogers. I know you didn't catch his act yet. Because you know the song, you said, did you have you seen the show? Mhmm. You said, you know the song

Oh, that was, this,

beautiful song.

Yeah. Nice one. Don't think so. You put yourself put yourself in their position. I've written songs.

In fact, the song I sing on stage is from somebody else's stand point and there's a song I've written on an album which I wrote from a it could have been the guy or the girl stand point, but if you ever had friends that are, broken up and you're friends with both of them, I put myself in both sides. It's not really that hard to understand. I understand how you could do that.

Do do you do you read a lot?

As much as I can.

What what was the last book you read?

Last book I read was, oh, Attachments, Judith Rossner. Mhmm. And couples before that. What's her name? Erica Jong, book before that.

I'm now reading Pentimento, which is, Lynn Hellman's short stories.

Mhmm. And how about telling you, you like the one

that? Yeah. Tend to watch romantic I like the comedies and I like romantic films and the old films. And, America tonight, things like that. All the crazy stuff, Monte Python.

Right. Did did anyone ever see that you prefer a TV series or or anything? Yeah. They did.

I don't wanna

do it. Was this after you became very well known?

I think I've been off of them for a few years now, but I don't wanna do that.

You never you never would think of it. Was it variety or or a variety show? Variety. Why don't you do it? You take two of them?

Because I've seen I've heard people that do them complain so much about the pressure that's on on you. A, to keep up the standard. And B, people see you every week on television. There's not gonna be such a demand to go and see you in your concert or buy your records. I think that keeping yourself a little bit what's the word?

I just don't

Less exposed.

Less exposed is safer in the long run. And I also I did a television series in England

Oh, you did?

With Cliff Richard. I was like the guest every week, and I wasn't the main star. He was, but I saw what terrible pressure it is to be under every week to come up with something new and good and, you know, it's very hard. People do it.

So at this point in your career, I don't think it's going well. Mhmm. No complaints. No.

Just about to do a new album. I have a a hit single at the moment with John Travolta that's

I see. I'm doing that.

Huge. I mean, the fastest hit record in it went a million cell cello in just over two weeks two weeks.

I understand it's been Incredible. This is. Yeah.

It's amazing.

This one will be.

Yeah. It's been moving. And I have another single from that coming out soon. That's so that's all very exciting for me.

How how many singles do you do or do you do?

I do well, I do four well, the song you saw in the film clip, the duet that is out now, I song on my own and then we do one altogether. So there's like four

songs. Would you have would you only do two by yourself for you?

One by myself.

One by yourself.

John does one and, as that seems to go. He seems good. He did he did on the record, he sounds terrific. Have you heard him?

No. I mean, I interviewed for all. He thinks he's very good.

He hadn't had a chance to. He hadn't really sang that way before, but he did it well after it.

Do you swim in the ocean nowadays?

Not much because I'm not on the ocean.

You're not

on the I'm on in the hills. Back in the hills.

All over the place. Okay.

I swim a bit, but I haven't been on the beach for a long time. I swim in the pool more at home.

I'm not scared of sharks.

I happen to move to the beach.

Scared of sharks?

Yeah. From living in Australia, I get very nervous in the sea.

I don't think I was going to have those big nets. Yeah.

Oh, in Sydney, that happened everywhere. It's happened. The boat. Mhmm. Not nice.

But here you don't worry about

I do. In fact, unfortunately, the year I moved here how long goes yours out? Two years ago? Three years ago, must be. I moved to the beach just as that movie opened.

Went to see it. Just a movie to the beach. I said I didn't go to the ocean for six months.

Really? It's

terrible. I was terrified.

Call a 60 foot shop up

the freeway. That's what

I said. I'm surprised that you went out in the sun. I thought that you were so fed and you were burned to a piss.

Not an Aussie skin.

You

Well, in Australia, you spend your life at the beach and stuff like this. It's tough enough. Oh, you burn, but it's tough, I guess. I'm not really that wide anyway.

Yeah. You're very fast. Oh, yeah? I I upon the you you of course, you gotta burn now. You're a little darker.

What? Because I

because the lights also bleach you out.

You never go to somebody.

Oh, yeah. I meet somebody. If I overdo it, but I'm careful. You learn how to do it over the years.

Are are you one of those, you feel a lot about animals? Yes. What about women? Equal rights. Equal rights.

Are you into that place?

I'm not involved in any of it. I believe in equal pay for equal work. I think that's only fair. I, I believe in the vote. I'm a bit late with that one.

I think, I think women are just as talented. They just haven't had the chance in a lot of areas. But I also don't believe, and I think it's a danger that women are getting too independent. It's gonna whiplash back because men aren't treating I've seen a lot of instances where young guys don't treat you quite the same anymore because they think you want your independence, so the doors stop being opened and the chairs stop being pulled away. I think that'd be really sad if that kind of thing stopped.

So there's a very fine line between being independent and all those things and just the common curtsies.

In other words, to be independent, you get the other. You've got

it here. Yeah. We can do both if you if men and women just remember they are men and women and forget about all the other thing, there's still that that niceness that should I could be a real shame of that stuff.

I don't know if I should

get involved in it. That's too political. It is? I don't know that I should make it. But I have a feeling

on it. You mean if you made it if you had an opinion, you might, you know, somebody might not buy your records?

No. No. I like this. I think it's up to the women. I don't think there's anything to do anybody else.

If that if they if that's what they wanna do, that's their choice. And I don't think anyone else should interfere with it.

Let's talk a little more about Greece. How how long did it take you to do it? Two months. Didn't you find that making movie boring? Did you sit around a

lot? There There's a lot of sitting around, but it was never boring because there were a lot of I had a I made a lot of friends during that. We had a lot of fun. So I was not even

What did you what did you do on this afternoon? Are you waiting for it to be set up? Close-up.

We just sit in the cabin and talk. We can't do much. Read? Read on television. Just talk.

Talk

And and you like the whole movie making possibly a rehearsal?

I like that.

It's more like, making a record in there. It's just they have to rehearse and get it down time.

It was it's more painstaking than a record, even because you're in a record to do one take, and you stop it, but it's not gonna keep going. With this, to do a whole record or a whole scene might take you three days. It's much longer, I think.

You say if you make the record, you go right through it, you know?

Well, generally. I mean, you do a whole song. And if there's a mistake, you go back and do it again. But

Well, there's another way of listening if you make a mistake or do it again?

Sometimes. But I mean, if you're working with three people Mhmm. Let me just explain that. When you're making a record, it's just you and the track or the orchestra. And if you make a mistake, it's your mistake, you go back and do it again.

You're in control. With a movie, if there are other actors on the set and one of you feels that they've done a bad performance and the other two could do a good performance, director has to decide whether he wants to keep that tech on it. So it's not anymore in your power. That's the difference.

Did it happen on the on days?

When you felt There were a few times when I thought I could have done a better job, but I had to take somebody else's word for it. I've never had to really do that before.

And then did you see the rush of that? Mhmm. Were were you happy with it, or were you still convinced you could have done it better?

Sometimes. Sometimes, there's a very fine line between what I think I could have done and and what was there. I think it's it's very sometimes you need that in impartial third party because you can be too picky on yourself sometimes.

You have to party with you. I'm still unsure about your movie then. Are you would you like to be, something no. You don't wanna be another anybody. But like Doris Day, you had this fabulous scene here, and then she came to number one box office lady where she did that kind of thing?

That's right. I mean, would you envision yourself doing something like that? Or do you see yourself doing a lot of more dramatic things going off with a different thing? I'm not sure.

I don't know. I really think a lot of it depends on Bruce, how it's accepted. If the people accept me and if they don't like me in the movie, you might never see me again. So it's all a bit hypothetical at the moment.

In in this story, they say that you broke up with your.

Yeah. Lots of times.

That's why I asked you about it. Is this story correct?

It was then.

It was then. In other words, you gotta keep tuned.

Yeah. No. No. I'm here. Okay.

Thank you.

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